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Minutes
of the Meeting 2004-06-16
Topics for the Economics Agenda:
In attendance were: Dr John Courtneidge
(Chair), Janos Abel, Massimo De Angelis, Woody Bronson, Miss
Cho, Mary Fee, Matti Kohonen, Pema Jigme Choder, Robin Upton
(taking notes), Apologies: Sabine McNeil
A
report from ESF Paris
Matti Kohonen explained that support for ESF
is greater in Europe than UK, and the most enthusiastic supporters
were French and Italians. At the ESF in Paris there was a
Solidarity Village which ran in parallel to the official ESF
and examined the co-operative sector (see text of introductory
flier below). Some co-operative banks in France are in practice
almost completely capitalist in outlook and behaviour. http://www.credit-cooperatif.fr/,
and other banks, insurance societies are actually more alternative.
One of the key concepts was the duality of the Social
Economy and the Solidarity Economy.
Social Economy: Broadly democratic institutions for
holding money trusts, commonholds (building
societies used to be like this, but have been demutualised
into banks, since, unlike other places, they had no legal
protection in UK),
Solidarity Economy: The varied range of new community
social movements that started to develop in the 1980s
and 90s, collaborating locally and globally to build
a common and shared, inclusive agenda
.
Further Discussion of Content
Massimo emphasised the topic of The Commons
basic income, shared well-being, as a tool to overcome
the debt-slavery of the north. He suggested the phrase Life
Despite Capitalism to indicate ideas that are rooted
in the present, not looking far ahead, to counter-balance
traditional political discourse which looks to the future
all the time. In fact there are a wealth of actual developing
alternatives to capitalism such as LETS, food co-ops etc.
which it would be good to highlight, encouraging them in positive
steps now and helping them make links with happening projects.
Language Used
It was noted that some so-called alternative
economic theories, such as Post-Autistic, Heterodox, Marxist
and Post-Keynsian Economics may not be so different in practice
from mainstream economics. Concerns were voiced that we find
a way to gauge the relevance of the different issues/topics
so that important issues dont get sidelined by other
parties seeking to hijack the event It was understood that
Alan Freeman was considering scheduling a separate academic
economics conference on the Monday & Tuesday following
the ESF. Key phrases are an important means of focussing attention
and providing continuity, so we will try to use similar terminology
where possible (e.g. neo-liberalism and solidarity
economy). Johns favourite expression is commonweal
but this is a rather archaic and we dont know how well
it is understood in Europe..
Proposed sub-titles for the event (after
LETS Co-operate) (also perhaps suitable as suggestions of
plenaries in the ESF?) were:
1. Another Enterprise is Possible
2. Social & Solidarity Economy and Social Movements
3. Democratising the Economy A Strategy for Sustainable
Development
Use
of Space
Co-ordinating events run by self-organised
of groups would be easier if all the economics discussion
topics were localized in the Bloomsbury area. There was already
a separate conference on affordable housing scheduled in the
main part of Conway Hall on the Friday, and Human rights International
was holding an Event on the Saturday night. LETSlink London
had originally booked just the Saturday for LETS Co-operate
(a previous conference of that name had previously been held
in November 2002), but in response to a communication from
the ESF Coordinating Committee that they were entitled to
demand the use of this venue for the ESF had decided it was
best to extend the booking back, with access through from
Wednesday evening to Sunday lunchtime, in order to provide
as much continuity as possible, and to liaise with the other
groups who would also be running events in the building. It
was further agreed that it would be good to conceptually link
Conway Hall and LSE, for example by using Red Lion Square
outside Conway Hall to put stalls on, or even putting a couple
of marquees on Lincolns Inn where we could have meetings
(if the authorities were co-operative). If we had council
permission we could block Red Lion Square from cars for the
weekend. A useful space above Temple Station was also suggested.
Other Groups
But here we needed to liaise carefully with
LSE and other groups who might want also to be involved, to
establish what the organizational and financial boundaries
are around LETS Co-operate, and a wider Solidarity
Village including the other spaces mentioned enabling other
groups to self-organise. It was suggested that without being
over-prescriptive we could allow them some sort of easily
understood but flexible framework of venues, where we make
resources such as spaces, tables, and lightweight displays
available to groups that want them. The question was also
raised of how we liaise with groups planning events in distant
locations also associated with the ESF. We decided the programme
should include not just things we organise, but also things
done in parallel by other groups, such as the main ESF and
all associated groups. Several groups such as London21 may
be able to enter into partnership with us if suitably approached
by the right people.
Publicity
At this stage we did not know whether we would
get exchange publicity from the official ESF, even a weblink.
It was suggested we use the Big Issue vendors to sell or distribute
the programme, either in parallel with the paper or as a supplement/
story inside it. Whether this could even provide an income
stream if sold needed to be negotiated. The idea was proposed
of including in our publicity a Green Map, in conjunction
with the London21 (which provides the technical back-up for
groups to map their borough and also advises on sources of
funding). Alan Freeman had mentioned a contact in the Events
Unit at GLA of Jude Woodward for advice on whether GLA might
provide support. This approach would draw the autonomous activities
together including those based on Occupied Spaces and Community
Centres in the suburbs as well as those in the Solidarity
Village and the main venue and show the transport links. Woody
suggested the idea of autonomous groups making stickers so
that people can put them a freeform empty spaces
map, allow scheduling to be flexible, supporting last minute
changes.
Additional Ideas
A model of our organisation method would be
helpful to allow outsiders to learn what is going on. With
street vendor licences from the London Borough of Camden we
could establish a network of information kiosks at points
around the venue. If we broadcast what was going on (e.g.
by live WiFi link), passers by can see and people could target
their topics of interest. Ian Dicksons CommKit was mentioned
as of possible use to prepare a website for the event (www.commkit.com),
but it was noted that other websites relating to the event
were already up and running eg (www.esf2004.net)
Finance
Conway Hall and associated rooms have been
booked from Wednesday evening to Sunday evening, at an estimated
cost of about £7000 - exact amount to be confirmed,
by LETSlink London (LLL), which is legally responsible for
providing the balance by mid-September details of exactly
which rooms are available will be checked and put up on a
visual format on the Letslink London website. Broadband is
needed for computer access, which is priced at £1000-£1500.
LLL would have to source funding for both of these basic costs,
either in the form of grants (Co-operative Action and Phone
Co-op were suggested) and/or by creating a set of income streams
to recoup this money. Collaboration with the social economy
could be a good way of raising funds, for example by finding
suitably progressive groups interested in running a stall
in Conway Hall or one of the associated spaces, in distributing
leaflets, or having advertising space on the programme. Charging
an entrance fee should also be given proper consideration.
Conclusion
John noted that once Mary had managed to archive
and reference material from the previous conference we could
begin using the LETSlink UK website to log progress on new
papers and support already being offered for this conference.
As time was up and we needed to be out of the building by
8,30pm, and we were all tired, several people needing to travel
some distance outside London, we parted company in good heart
and resolved to continue the discussion by email
Use of Complementary Currencies
At a follow-up meeting on Friday 18th June,
Sabine and Mary prioritised our discussions around the implementation
of a complementary currency for the event, eg London Links
and other local currencies, which was the essential aim of
LETSlink. Through the FSC we had a good prospect of support
from a professional barter company which was capable of taking
this to a higher financial level, using Trade Pounds. If an
entrance fee for LETS Co-operate event was charged
as was being done for the conference on housing complementary
currencies could then be accepted. Translating that into common
parlance means that people could pay by volunteering. How
this would impinge on the relationship with the ESF could
be explored once it had been set up. Much work was needed
to organize this, by implementing a range of technologies
which were on for computer input and communications, and also
designing publicity and hand-held materials such as cheques
and passbooks.
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